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If 1 x 1 = a number, and 0 x 1 = not a number, wouldn't this =

[From: ] [author: ] [Date: 11-05-14] [Hit: ]
So if you want to pull at the threads forming the foundations of the most familiar mathematics, youve definitely found the right place to start.-1) Zero is not a no number, its 02) You should stop referring positive numbers as whole numbers, because the definition of whole numbers varies (are different)3) The number 0 is neither positive nor negative, so you cant apply all rules of multiplying positive and negative #s.......

Yawn.

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Oh, and in case it matters,

0+1 = 1
0+0 = 0
0*a = 0 for all a

are the axioms that define the properties of zero in real analysis.
as axioms, they are accepted without proof and form the foundation of the rest of mathematics derived from real analysis.

So if you want to pull at the threads forming the foundations of the most familiar mathematics, you've definitely found the right place to start.

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1) Zero is not a "no number", it's 0
2) You should stop referring positive numbers as whole numbers, because the definition of whole numbers varies (are different)
3) The number 0 is neither positive nor negative, so you can't apply all rules of multiplying positive and negative #s.

Just remember, you can't get something from absolutely nothing, in math.

0 multiply by any number is always 0.

By the way, it's easier to understand integers, if you stopped thinking that 0 always means nothing.

0 means something, such as in 0°F or 0°C.

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"So I give you 0, 0 times, (0 x 0). I gave you NOTHING, NO AMOUNT OF TIMES, so I gave you something, some amount of times."

Untrue. Let's say what you're giving me is egg cartons.

1 x 1 = you have egg cartons containing 1 egg. You give me one carton. I have 1 egg.
1 x 0 = you have egg cartons which are empty. You give me one carton. I have 0 eggs.
0 x 0 = you have egg cartons which are empty. You don't give me any. That is NOT the same as your handing me egg cartons with eggs in them.

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I think you confuse yourself grasshopper. Zero is a reference point. You can idendify one because it's
one from zero. 0x0=0. 1/0 = NaN (not a number) my calculator tells me. Now if you let n approach
zero in 1/n, you approach infinity, so zero is used in limits. Have more respect for nothing.
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